Back when I first started the blog, before I was doing on air interviews, I would use Facebook messenger to interview folks in the Class and artists that were cool enough to accomodate me. The first one was with my girl Ericka Lindsey. It was mad fun and shortly after that one, I did this interview with my man Finale from Detroit. It’s about a year old and it has been lost, found, lost and found again and I figured now was a good time to break it out. I will be doing this again soon with another member of the Class. Maybe even you.. Anyway I hope you dig it!
Mike
What up Finale?
Finale
chilling..finishing up these joints for The Are & Nametag…i’m playing catch up on feature verses but im good lol
Mike
I been dealing with Nametag but The Are’s name is just starting to ring out with me, what else has he produced?
Finale
he’s a producer from houston, tx
used to be in a group called K-otix
did that Lil Kim single and a bunch of other dope underground records
was signed to Track Masters (tone & poke)
good dude
he reached out asking for a feature joint to be on his upcoming compilation album
Mike
well he couldn’t have come to a better person!!!!
Finale
lol word thanx man
Mike
speaking of names ringing out your name is getting crazy buzz. My class loves your album because I’ve played almost everything from it
Finale
wow…thanx man that’s crazy haha
tell your students i said thank you
Mike
will do! You just did actually they’ll see it in the blog lol. I got open off of Heat it was one of my top songs last year.
The World loves Dilla but I’m sure it’s nothing like the love he gets at home
Finale
Dilla’s roots are deep in this city, his legacy is timeless. He was a real person without a hidden agenda. what you saw was what you got with Dilla. Plus between ma dukes, Big Tone and Kendra running the J Dilla Foundation now, I know he will be represented properly
“Dilla’s roots are deep in this city, his legacy is timeless”
Mike
gotta give a shout out to Ma Dukes!
By the way his legacy was done still saddens me to this day but if anybody can get it right Ma Dukes can!
Finale
yep she’s been at the last two shows I’ve rocked
and she is a genuine person it’s always dope to pay respect to her and the musical revolution she ultimately created.
At the show I look up, and shes in front of the stage looking at my ultrasound pictures with my girl lol…priceless haha
Mike
you expecting?
Finale
yup its a boy due may 30th…this will be a crazy year lol
i took a couple steps back and added on a few more responsibilities for my kid but its worth it lol
two albums
im working again lol
traveling
and taking care of home
Mike
is he holding a microphone in the ultrasound lol?
Finale
it looked like it at first
at least i think so lol
Mike
that might be something else! Ha
Finale
let’s just say it’s a microphone lol
Mike
microphone it is! Ha!
The call and response on Heat bought me to tears to you remember what city that was???
Finale
traverse city, mi
good folks out there man…they really really support
Mike
sounded like you were in the Silverdome! lol
Finale
it was a festival in traverse city i was co headlining with Brother Ali
there was about 700 people there
dope night
Mike
sounded like 700,000!
well you said that you had two albums coming out. we’ll talk about that later let’s get into your past work a little. I played Brother’s Keeper last week and I want to know where the inpiration for that track came from.
Finale
my brother got locked up a while back
he did his time and i got blamed for him getting locked up
i felt guilty about it so we never wrote or spoke to each other while he was locked up
that song is my unwritten letter
i wrote it on the plane flying back from virginia
when i first met Nottz
I played the song for my brother when he was released
Mike
how did he feel about it?
Finale
he finally understood why
i stayed in the background
i was always traveling/doing school or working
and my family blamed me for not being there enough
Mike
well the song is phenomenal. The sample that opens it up grabs you right away. do you know what was sampled?
Finale
millie jackson
forgot the name of the song
but its crazy
like literally
she gets crazy on that shit
Mike
I was a huge Millie Jackson fan! I’m going to find it if it’s the last thing I do!
Finale
i couldve flipped that sample a few different ways
but my brother was the only thing that stood out and it was a chance to let the listeners in
Mike
you did that! I played it and sent it out to the cats that listen to my show that are locked down
can I ask you what some of your all time favorites are?
Finale
chosen one by oc
stray bullet by organized konfusion
93 til infinity by souls of mischief
listen up by e rule
Mike
whoa whoa you hitting me too fast fam!
Finale
my bad lol
Mike
it’s cool, your favorite album and why?
Finale
jewelz by oc
its the most complete album start to finish that i’ve heard so far come out of hiphop
thats what i wanna get to
Mike
pipe dream is there fam don’t be modest. btw LOVE the title!
Finale
thanx man appreciate that
i still got a few levels to go before i can even see jewelz status in the distance
but i’ll keep trying
lol
Mike
you are closer than you think you named a few songs before but what’s your favorite hip hop track ever and what do you love about it?
Finale
stray bullet by organized konfusion
pharoah’s verse is perfect…the description, flow and word usage still keeps me entertained to this day
i wanna know what he was thinking when he wrote that cause he blacked out
listen up by e rule is a close second
underrated emcee
Mike
your mention of OK and O.C. got me to thinkin about Fudge Pudge. We don’t hear enough Pharoe these days. Stray Bullet was an excellent call
favorite video?
Finale
hmm thats a tough one…
T.R.O.Y. is always a classic to me i liked the vintage look
Mike
yeah the way they slid the old family pics in there was a great touch
can I assume Dilla’s your fave producer?
Finale
yup but i don’t judge producers like that…dilla is the most consistent
im real critical of producers
thats why i work with so many
i like different sounds
Mike
I got that from your album, all of the tracks are different but it’s still a very cohesive work.
I know being from Motown you like the old soul
Finale
yup stevie and donnie
Mike
LOVE them both, Have you heard someday by DJ K.O feat talib Kweli, torae, John Robinson and Tiffany Paige
Finale
yup dope song
J.R. is the homey
Mike
LOVE JR’s voice. It’s so different!
They flipped Someday we’ll all be free quite nice
I don’t have to ask you why you said Stevie and Donnie but for the sake of those that don’t know school em
Finale
stevie wonder is a genius with an endless catalog of classics and donnie hathaway is probably the most sincere artist ive heard period…you can hear every emotion through his lyrics and its almost as if everything stops and youre forced to listen to a donnie song because you cant help but relate
“stevie wonder is a genius with an endless catalog of classics and donnie hathaway is probably the most sincere artist ive heard period”
Mike
damn. well put on Donnie. damn.
you got a nigga all emo over here!
Finale
lol
thats just some authentic music right there
plus i like the way singers write/perform
over rappers anyway
Mike
I agree, there are songs…that are complete masterpieces. Great hip hop lyrics is really a series of punchlines. I feel you can construct a song as an mc i.e. I used to love her but songwriters write songs
it’s like the difference between a magazine and a book
aight I am a native Chicagoan and it pains me to say this but I gotta admit Detroit is killin it right now and has been for a minute. WTF are ya’ll doing up there?
Finale
lol our circle is smaller and more concentrated than others
honestly i think if our scene was as big as new york , la or atlanta where rappers flock to then we might not get as much attention as we do
but im proud of the artists out here
we work hard to push each other
“Detroit artists work hard to push each other”
Mike
You know that is so true. I just noticed that. You all run pretty tight, Black Milk, Guilty Simpson, SV, Danny Brown, Invincible, Royce. You ALL are ALWAYS on tracks together! you know it is in my DNA to hate you all but it is fucking impossible
I gotta ask you something about the D that my listeners have wondered and I wonder myself… HOW DO YOU CATS COME UP WITH YOUR NAMES!?!???
Finale
lol someone gave me my name at a local emcee battle
i was in the crowd running cypher to cypher
one dude was following me
i guess he noticed that after i rapped in each cypher no one wanted to follow
me
so he tells me to come on stage when he goes up
then he announces over the mic at st. andrews
“this dude just killed about 6 cyphers…this is the finale..”
so it kinda stuck
Mike
gotta ask and don’t front, what was it before that?
Finale
just derek lol
thats it
my boys used to clown me
for using my real name
but everybody’s doing it now i guess
my name aint cool like drake tho lol
Mike
Don’t feel bad…Derek rhymes with a FEW things (snicker)
aight I’m just playin fam
Finale
lmao!
Mike
aight. besides that huge Major Release you droppin May 30th did you say TWO ALBUMS?!?!!?
Finale
yea the first one im wrapping up is a collab album w/ oddisee (diamond district)
then the followup to pipe dream and a promise later
Mike
Oh I am a huge Oddisee fan. Kinda got on to him through Little Brother
That should be crazy! I’m imagining that now!
Two albums is a tall order….and again the May 30 release…
I been saying you are the future of Detroit Hip Hop
is the future now?
Finale
im just at the point where im not waiting for anything anymore
i played my position for too long
so im making my run and if i end up winning im grateful if i fall short then at least i can say i really tried…my timeline/schedule as far as me/hiphop kinda got shifted around with the kid lol
but i like where im at now
the lyrics are getting better/stage show is getting better and im growing as an artist
“so im making my run and if i end up winning im grateful if i fall short then at least i can say i really tried”
Mike
I feel silly asking you this but Are you Hip Hop
Finale
sure…why not lol
i like to think of myself as an artist..i don’t like labels like underground/street/hood/backpack
i make music and take my time
whatever category it sits in makes no difference to me long as it comes out the way i hear it in my head …
Mike
well put. Well since I got you on here and my whole class is paying attention can we bug you later this week for a drop for the 3/13 show?
Finale
yup np bro
Mike
just want to get it on record lol
Finale
lol cool np i got u
Mike
Well on behalf of my my entire Class, Myself and The Old School, New School, Need To Learn Though Show, we thank you for keeping hip hop alive!
You are an amazing lyricist and you have various flows as exhibited by the many styles you put out on The Pipe Dreams and A Promise album.
It was truly a pleasure talking to you and anything you want to break let me know
Finale
thanx bro …peace
Huge Shout Out to Finale and cop his albums Bloodworks and Pipe Dreams and A Promise. I assure you, you won’t be disappointed! Thanks for reading.
Ya Man,
The Professor